Most Tennesseans support wine in grocery stores

An MTSU poll found that 62 percent of Tennesseans support selling wine in grocery stores in areas that already allow the sales of alcoholic beverages, as compared to 26 percent who oppose sales.

Full details at mtsurveygroup.org
Sean Braisted’s commentary

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13 Responses to “Most Tennesseans support wine in grocery stores”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    Again, this question is being posed as “wine in grocery stores”, even though the majority of new retailers created could be gas stations. Over the past 40 years Tennessee has improved the wine market by placing liscensing strictly in the hands of people who have to live and work among the population. The results have been a huge reduction in the cheap, high-alcohol products that companies like Gallo, Canandiagua, Taylor, et al. have been selling in this state.

    The results of placing these wines in the coolers of gas stations should be obvious to anyone. But a question like “Should grocery stores be allowed to sell wine?” doesn’t present the whole story. A lie of ommission is still a lie.

    Those who forget history are bound to repeat it. Let’s hope we still have enough “archaic” state reps and senators to realize that this isn’t just a convenience issue, but one of public safety.

    • redwhiteandfood Says:

      Hello, anonymous poster. You have made your point. Maybe it’s time for you to take action:

      1) Lobby the Tennessee Wine & Spirits Retailers Association to forbid its members from selling the cheap brands of wine you fear. It should be easy since I am sure none of them do it right now anyway. And, if by chance they do, I am sure it’s somehow safer when they sell it.
      2) Lobby the Tennessee Wine & Spirits Wholesalers to agree to never sell those brands in Tennessee. The only way those wines can be sold at retail is if a wholesaler supplies it. They are your suppliers. You should have some leverage over them, right?

      This way everyone wins. Your community is not at peril, consumers get the option of buying nice table wine at the grocery store, and we get to celebrate free trade in America.

      Sound good to you?

  2. cory Says:

    I thought that anonymous made a good point about the gas stations and the survey. I think the results would have been quite different if you had asked the question regarding grocery stores AND gas stations. The responder from this site should accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion and shouldn’t be so defensive when the point is contrary to that of the site operator. Nothing on your site says that you can only reply if you agree; but I feel that if you disagree, your opinion will be challenged.

    I am interested in this topic and have been reading your website fairly regularly to see what comments are made both pro and con. i have been reluctant to post because even though your reply form says that the email address will not be published, last week you did make public identifying information on one of your posters that you disagreed with. You didn’t publish the actual email address, but you did identify the writer because you disagreed with him. I don’t think that this should be done when you indicate that the poster can make a comment unidentified. Just my 2 cents worth on proper website management.

    As for my opinion on the issue, I’m undecided. Definitely don’t like gas stations selling alcohol.

  3. redwhiteandfood Says:

    Thanks for posting your opinion. The dialogue and debate are important. We hope more people are like you in that they are following the debate and carefully weighing their decision.

    You are exactly right that it’s impossible to argue opinions because everybody’s opinion is valid. The anonymous poster and we have been in a spirited back and forth over the issue. We welcome his dissent. It’s healthy and, believe it or not, appreciated.

    We also appreciate you raising the point that we revealed his identity. We honestly didn’t notice the disclaimer because our posts are managed differently as administrators. We have deleted those references from our posts and won’t do that again.

    Our issue is not the dissent but the presumption of our motives. What is he stating as fact is not true and, in our opinion, deserves comment. Our intent is to sell table wine intended for consumption with meals. There is no hidden agenda.

    Thanks again for your comment and for pointing out our misstep about the poster’s identity. We hope that you will comment again as the debate continues.

  4. Not-so-Anonymous Says:

    What you are suggesting is impossible. Franchise agreements don’t allow it, not to mention laws covering collusion, antitrust, and organized boycotts. Wine companies bring these brands in and out of the market, there will always be a new “flavor” – like all businesses their managers want to increase sales, profits, and their own bonuses. Up-market, down-market, you name it, they will sell it. Remember Joe Camel?

    The Tennessee Oil Marketers Association isn’t about to boycott the high-alcohol beers sold at gas stations, either. Malt liquor could be one more source of revenue, and your actions would get us one step closer to those products being sold in gas stations. Ice cold.

    Since I told you we are members (ironic?) I can tell you that growing up I always heard about the robberies, drive-offs, even murders at my own family’s convenience stores. So I can tell you from experience that C-stores are not the place to be selling 20% alcohol products in Tennessee.
    And yes it is safer in the current liquor stores. No situation will be perfect, but tight control has been the best policy so far for our state.

    The people who are sending in the postcards from the nicest grocery stores in the state aren’t aware of what your bill would actually do. You have kept it hidden on purpose. So my counter-challenge to you, one that is actually not against federal law, is to place your Where’s The Wine? signs in as many gas stations as you have in grocery stores, and in the zip codes with the lowest per capita incomes in the state as well as the highest. Otherwise, there can be no doubt that you are hiding at least part of your organization’s agenda.

    • redwhiteandfood Says:

      Thanks for the clarification. You raise some valid points we didn’t know about. It just seems if these products are such a big problem, then the liquor industry would work — including revising franchise agreements and advocating changes in the law — to prevent them from being sold in Tennessee. Haven’t seen anything like that yet.

      If you think about it, your last point proves our intent. The displays are only in grocery stores because our intent is to sell table wine to be consumed with food. That’s as clear as we can be. Not putting displays in all stores doesn’t portend a hidden agenda. Just so you know, the Tennessee Oil Marketers Association is not a Red White and Food supporter. It never has been.

      P.S. the new screen name is hilarious.

  5. Hilarious Says:

    TOMA supports TGCSA, where the Red White and Food “grassroots organization” has its address. The office you are in right now. Same phone number, same receptionist. Once again you are being dishonest on your blog. Sorry to embarrass you.

    Readers can just do a google search for Tennessee Oil Marketers Association and Jarron Springer. That should settle it.

    I understand you have a paycheck to protect, but flat out lying to Tennesseans, while at the same time requesting the state to release multiple high-alcohol retailing licenses for gas stations is wrong. But hey, this is (in your own words) “big league politics”.

    As far as “intent” goes, I believe there is a saying about a road being paved with good intentions? Seriously, the law is not concerned with intentions but with results. Mankind has managed alcoholic beverages for thousands of years. You and your fellow lobbyists don’t have anything new to teach. The current laws are good laws and they are there for all the right reasons.

    • redwhiteandfood Says:

      Your information is just not right. Please post a link to a website where TOMA says it supports wine in grocery stores. We’d love to see it as well. TOMA is not a Red White and Food supporter — in kind, in spirit, or in cash. The facts aren’t embarrassing at all.

      By the way, where do we find the address and phone number for Tennesseans Against Teen Drinking?

      Several times now, you have accused us of lying and made allegations about our motives. Just a reminder to play nice and be respectful.

  6. Hilarious Says:

    Are you serious? “Awaiting moderation”? By who, Joe the Plumber?
    You’re just going to delete the posts that don’t jive with you? Other posts are accusing the legislators, the liquor store owners/workers, law enforcement, and others, of being so very wrong in their beliefs. But when publication of behind-the-scenes information happens, you just want to delete it – make it disappear? Now that IS big league politics.

  7. Anonymous Says:

    Since my previous post was erased, I’ll repost the info and wait to see how long it takes before it disappears:

    Boone’s Farm just released Wild Cherry flavor and it would go well with hot dogs and twinkies. If this lobbyist gets his way, you may soon find it on every street corner in TN.

    And TOMA is behind this, whether or not the blogger here knows it or is allowed to acknowledge it publicly.

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